>> thanks. >> chris: i want to put up remarkable numbers i saw. the nra contributed 20 million today's federal campaigns last year, $20 million and gun control groups gave $4,000. and 50% of the members of the new congress, in fact, more than half have an a rating from the nra. given all of that, how do you and other groups that feel as you you to hope to take on the gun lobby in practical terms? how do you match their money and their clout on capitol hill? >> look, are the nra is spent a lot of money on the elections last cycle and they didn't have to lot to show for it especially if you look at the senate. a lot of their candidates lost and they had a very if we are looking at return on investment they had a very low return on investment. of course, the nra s a strong lobby. the issue here is who s going to represent the voices of the american people in this debate.